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Clueless Ziggo Helpdesk

2008/08/20 filed under /personal

ziggo logo Last night my dad called me to inform me my server was not functioning correctly. Funny, 'cause I was working on it as he called, so I asked him to explain his problems in a little more detail. The problem, or so it turned out, was that he couldn't send any emails and the Ziggo helpdesk told him it was my server.

Quite strange, for he does indeed uses my IMAP/POP3 server, but SMTP is handled by his ISP, Ziggo. And since he can't send any mail the problem is most likely to be at their end. So after explaining the difference between incoming and outgoing mail, I told my father to call the helpdesk again and demand some help, not some ignorant answer.

After a while, he called me again. The helpdesk this time deemed it necessary to reset his password. My dad had to wait for half an hour and login to the webmail of ziggo to see if he could send mail from there. Again a rather odd reply in my humble opinion, but hey, it might be a known workaround of ziggo. In the meanwhile I asked my dad what error message he did get and the answer to that question made a lot of things clear. The error was (translated, the original error was in Dutch):

550 - this is unwanted email and will not be delivered.

Nice, right? I had no clue how a password reset was going to help, but I wished my dad good luck with the spamfilter that was obviously too strict.

A little later the phone rang again and my dad was getting more and more annoyed. He waited for 30 minutes, logged into the webmail, did send a test message and all that went fine. However, his mail still couldn't be sent from Outlook and now he had a new phone number that he was going to call tomorrow. The phone number of the Microsoft helpdesk.

I literally was in shock when I heard they send him to Microsoft. Did Outlook create the 550-SMTP reply? Nope. Why on earth didn't these moronic hell-desk employees simply tell him to reformat the mail and try again? So I had to call them myself and asked them for a motivation for sending my dad of to Microsoft. The explanation was rather simple according to the friendly but completely clueless guy. "Webmail works fine, but Outlook gives an error, so it must be an Outlook problem and thus Microsoft.". I asked him what part of the error message he didn't understand, if he looked the '550'-code up, why he didn't simply send my father to the 2nd line support if he couldn't solve the problems and what the email address was to complain to.

He kept mumbling and even wouldn't agree on the spam filter being too strict. Apparently, false positives are completely acceptable to him. I asked him why three helpdesk employees who get training (I hope) and money for helping people weren't able to help my dad, while I could help him over the phone in less than two minutes. That he didn't know either.

So I drafted a fine mail to the complaints department of ziggo to complain about the competency of the helpdesk. Not even do they not help, the even don't call in the 2nd/3rd line support and I'm fairly sure that would be procedure. Fire the guys, give them a decent training, do something about it, SickoZiggo!


Update I: I don't seem to be the only one who didn't like ziggo's customer service ;-)


Update II: I just read that Ziggo lost 265.000.000 euro last year. Well, try to improve your customer service instead of scaring people away!

Posted by: B10m | permanent link | comments (4)

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Martijn wrote at 2008-09-06 17:02:

A 550 error indicates that relaying isn't allowed or that the mailbox doesn't exist. Usually the former. To prevent spam most smtp servers block relaying from other networks (the ones who don't are called "open relays" which tend to get blacklisted by other networks).

Your dad should use the Ziggo smtp server (or rather smtp.casema.nl, smtp.home.nl or smtp.quicknet.nl, depending where he's based as the mail services of Casema, @Home and Multikabel are not yet integrated) not the smtp server of your mailserver. Then everything should work fine.

B10m wrote at 2008-09-06 17:16:

My dad was using the SMTP server of Ziggo (@Home, in this case) and that server was replying with the 550 (as I explained in my post ;)

ogedi wrote at 2008-10-03 01:24:

no wonder they seem to be loosing their customers, for about a month i and my room mate in maastricht who took over the previous tenanats internet connection have been trying to contact them and change accounts but all to no avail, they put on hold for like 7 mins every time you call and the website does not have anywhere to send e mail, i am really getting frustrated with this ziggo people, we want to continue using their services and they just make it so difficult, why did they take over the old company if they cannot manage their clients. big now does not mean big forever.

Andraea wrote at 2008-10-13 00:09:

I completely agree. As a Mum educated by two IT savvy sons I now know how to work around the blocking triggers of the @home mail server in my case being located between Maastricht and Heerlen with my mails routed through Landgraaf. However I have just been told that they may have a new spam filter. I am sure that this is responsible for the non-arrival of a newsletter that I have subbed to for years and for the sudden insertion of this {Spam?} before anything else in the subject field in the last two weeks.
I would love a really good anti Ziggo blog. I seem to know more as a Senior Mum than those supposedly younger Helpdesk employees. The last one hung up on me in mid sentence. I have a whole folder full of info on this. I know their standard list that they work through... a load of c#%p. I just wonder what other "suprises" I am in for.

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